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------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RBD: Inquiries: Needs vs. Wants October 30, 2008 Kris Chronicles Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois
Transcribed by Dorothy Franklin (Ellora)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on October 30, 2008 MARK: Good evening and welcome to Reality by Design: A Kris Radio Show
here on That Radio and ThatChannel.com. My name is Mark Bukator and I
had trouble spitting that line out. [Laughter.] I'm so used to The
Kris Radio Show. Anyway, I am sitting here with John Hawkins. JOHN: Yes, thank you, Mark. And you did have a little . . . but you
know that makes you human, right? I mean, you're always . . . you come
in with such wonderful energy. And of course, we have our friend, Serge. SERGE: Thank you, John. Thank you, Mark. And yes, it's actually very
nice even weather-wise around here. A little cool, but tomorrow, warm
up.Great for Halloweenie. MARK: Happy Halloween. Do we have Skype yet? Alan? ALAN: Yeah, I'm here guys. MARK: Hey. SERGE: Hey there. ALAN: Hey, congratulations on the new show. [Laugher.] Just wanted to
.. . . [laughing] . . . just wanted to pass along that anybody
listening that's not on the Skype chat can send me a contact request
under the name marklinalan and I can add them into the chat. SERGE: And we can also post that on the website at some point. MARK: Absolutely. Absolutely. ALAN: Yeah, and the other thing we're suggesting in the chat room is
that people begin to make contributions to you guys to keep this show
on the air. We're telling them it's kinda' like Public Radio thing,
that the ads, you know, the ads don't carry the day. SERGE: This is the metaphysical version of PBS. [Laughter.] ALAN: Yes, that's it. SERGE: The only thing is there's no . . . we don't have twenty
different phone lines. [Mark laughs.] ALAN: But I think they could easily go to the donation tab on your
website and . . . SERGE: Oh, yeah. ALAN: . . . and make a contribution every month to keep this goin'. MARK: We'll go for break and we won't come back until we've reached
that ten-thousand-dollar mark. [Laughter.] ALAN: Yeah, there you go. JOHN: Well you know it's funny, because when I first started in on
this radio show, I . . . of course my background, my father owned a
radio station in my youth. And that was the old-style radio station
where basically, if you were gonna' have a show, they paid you. [Laughter.] JOHN: I know. It's a funny thought, eh? But the funny . . . [Interrupted] SERGE: Those are fairy tales. JOHN: [Laughing.] No, that's the way it used to work. But the funny
thing is that, because this is a, a very new, a new way of . . . MARK: Media. JOHN: . . . kind of community television kind of thing, it actually
costs money to be, on the radio. Which is interesting. MARK: So we do apprec . . .[Interrupted] ALAN: Did you say this is a new "medium"? [Laughter.] JOHN: I think I may have said that. MARK: I actually said "media". But yeah, you're right. ALAN: Okay. SERGE: Just to give you an idea, about one or two weeks ago I was
approached by an American company who has an internet radio show. They
have different functions on it. And you know, they gave me some of
their stats and some of their. . ..what do you call that, connections
or their monthly stats or whatever? And so I was waiting for the shoe
to drop. MARK: They had a lot of hits. They had millions. SERGE: They, they claimed they had two million listeners every month
all over the world. And so my, of course, curious nature is, "Okay. I
want the shoe to drop and drop it now." MARK: And it comes with an executive producer. SERGE: Was . . . well yes, they provide you with so many different
things to really promote your show. And I said, "Okay. How much?"
Thirteen weeks as your trial period, I think it was sixty seven
hundred dollars, twenty-four weeks, something like ten thousand
dollars US. I said, "Well, thank you. My people will be contacting
your people soon." [Laughing.] MARK: Not. SERGE: And it was very nice . . . ALAN: Hey, you can take that out of book receipts. MARK: [Laughing.] Yeah, we'll have our "dead guy" call your . . . SERGE: Yeah, our "dead guy's" gonna' call your "dead guy". [Laughter.] MARK: Oh yeah. We laughed hysterically over that. SERGE: I mean, I appreciate where they're coming from, but right now
it's not at a point in our story where we can script that in. JOHN: Well not only that, but whatever happened to selling advertising
and paying your talent? Anyway. SERGE: It works the other way around. You pay to be on a show and you
pay to listen to other people's advertisements on your show. JOHN: Okay. MARK: But as John and I were talking about just before we came on the
air, our new title is "Reality by Design: A Kris Radio Show", which
would seem to suggest that there might be more. JOHN: Other radio shows, yes. MARK: Possibly TV. Whoa. SERGE: Maybe he'll, maybe Kris will get his star on the Walk of Fame,
right beside Judge Judy. [Laughter.] SERGE: We actually, when we were in California a year and a half ago,
we saw Judge Judy get her star . . . JOHN: Oh, did you? SERGE: . . . on the walk. Yeah. She's like five, no, she's like
four-foot-four, maybe five. Very small woman. JOHN: Oh, she's great. I like her. SERGE: Well, she's got a lot of chutzpah. JOHN: Yeah, she's earned it. MARK: Something else that I would like to bring up is that I've been
working a little bit on the Kris Chronicles website,
www.krischronicles.com. And I've added a little button that says KRIS
101. And basically that page, which is just in its very early stages,
is a direct copy from a page, "Who Is Kris", on
yourfaithfulreporter.com with, from John here. And, I haven't brought
the images over yet. I will be doing that. But, this is a work in
progress. I'd like to expand upon this, have the sections click-able,
and expand more of Kris' mandate, for instance, and what he's all
about, and what his intent is and so on and so forth. But the whole
purpose is, it would give new visitors or . . . SERGE: Newcomers to the website. MARK: People that are new to channeling, as well as new to Kris, a
place to go to play "catch up" and bring them up to speed where they
can jump in to the rest of the website without feeling lost. And this
is all, obviously, to bring in new people, and get more and more
people paying attention to Kris. JOHN: Yeah, I think the way I think about that, Mark, is . . . You
know how Brahm is always talking about "bridge energy", right? MARK: Yes. JOHN: Well the thing about a bridge is, it starts where you are on
your side of the river . . .
MARK: Yes. JOHN: . . . and it takes you up and over, and it deposits you where
you want to go on the other side of the river. MARK: Absolutely. JOHN: And so, if we've got a bridge that takes a person from where
they're at, to a place where they're comfortable exploring the Kris
Materials themselves, I think that's a good metaphor. MARK: Absolutely. And I think Serge and I are at a point where we're
ready to grow again. We're ready to start expanding even more. And
here, another bridge right here in my hand is "Kris Chronicles:
Discourses on Dreams Volume 1″. And again, that's available through
our website www.krischronicles.com or www.authorhouse.com and
Amazon.com. That just came out on the market last week and it's doing
very well. SERGE: Yeah. There are people even mentioning that they'll buy four or
five copies as Christmas gifts to friends and relatives. MARK: Yeah. SERGE: That's kind of neat. MARK: I know there are people in Europe that already have it. SERGE: Yes. JOHN: Well you know the nice thing about this book is that everybody
dreams. I mean, everybody on the planet dreams whether they remember
it or not. And the material in this book . . . If you've ever bought a
dream book, you know, dream symbols, this is what a dog means . . .
This is an altogether different level of understanding of our
potential in dreams. And I heartily recommend it. MARK: Absolutely. Dream . . . or sorry, language, words, the spoken
word, as Kris tells me in this book, is a direct result of people
wanting to communicate their dreams with each other. That's kind of an
interesting little tidbit. JOHN: So you mean, the developing language came from people wanting to
share their dreams? MARK: Yes. JOHN: Well that's very interesting. And you know, it makes sense,
because you can talk, you can point at a tree, you know . . . MARK: Yes. JOHN: . . . but how can you point at your dream? MARK: [Laughing.] It's right there. It's right there. I'm pointing at
my forehead here. [Laughter.] ALAN: Up to that it was all grunt and point. [Laughter.] JOHN: That's very interesting. SERGE: What if I open my head to show you the trees or the pictures in
there? It hurts. Maybe that's where the original open-brain surgery
came from. MARK: One little mention I have here is that this coming Sunday, we're
setting the clocks back in Canada and many places throughout the
United States. So this is very important for people that are
connecting with us through Skype, through the International Sessions
or the "Change the World", and so on and so forth, that . . . The last
"Change the World", people missed the show by an hour because . . . SERGE: In Europe . . . MARK: they had changed the clocks in Europe and not here and they
didn't . . . weren't ready for that. So just giving everybody a "heads
up" that Sunday night here in Canada we are setting our clocks back. JOHN: Oh, good thought. MARK: Do the appropriate math. JOHN: Right. MARK: And one last shout out, I just want to say Happy Birthday to
Andrea. Her birthday is tomorrow, on Halloween. JOHN: Oh, really? MARK: Andrea is pregnant and she's ten days overdue. And I suspect the
baby's waiting for her birthday. JOHN: We might have a Halloween baby. MARK: Yep. Again. KRIS: Indeed we take it that tomorrow is a candy day, Halloween.
Therefore "BOO". MARK: [Laughing.] It's also "dead guy" day. JOHN: That's true. KRIS: Now before we proceed we would like to mention, in keeping with
the new theme of this show, or production, we would encourage anyone,
and as many people as you can imagine, to join the Skype or to send in
some questions, as we intend it to be the first official of "once a
month" open night. MARK: Oh nice. Sweet. KRIS: And questions that do not get addressed in one show do not
necessarily get bumped up for the next month. So keep that in mind.
Otherwise you might have such a backlog as to not be able to cover any
questions. MARK: Absolutely. KRIS: So we anticipate your inquiries, well thought out, formulated
and interesting inquiries. MARK: So that would start next week. KRIS: Indeed. These kinds of inquiries and this kind of production .
this radio show is not meant as a means to sneak in some private
sessions. Good clear inquiries may be generalized in order to address
as many people's situations as possible. Does that make sense? MARK: Yep. Absolutely. KRIS: Indeed. As well, whether it be this day, next week or a week
after, we would like to address specifics concerning situations in the
worldwide economies. There are many individuals who have a great deal
of fear at this point in time. You may have been keeping track in some
ways. Big companies, multi-nationals laying-off thousands of people,
increasing the ranks of what you call a recession. And this plays on
an individual's own fears. So we may be offering some information to
make certain that your fears do not carry you away, that you do not
become obsessive in that area. This simply means change, both individually and massively. And the
more ready you are for change, meaning the more flexible you are, the
easier it is to engage those transitions you create for yourselves.
Whether you believe that you have not done so consciously or not, is
besides the point. Does that also make sense? MARK: Absolutely. JOHN: Indeed. Now just a quick question. What if somebody wanted to
ask a question for next week on the economy? Should they hold that in
thinking that you're going to be doing like a show on it? Or is that
fair game? KRIS: They can process the inquiry. And at that moment we may even
select it as a launching point for the following presentation. JOHN: Okay. 'Cause I'm sure there's lots of people with lots of
questions about that. KRIS: Indeed. Now there are likely a variety of topics to choose from
this evening. One of those topics is, "What do inquiring minds want to
know?" as opposed to, "What do inquiring minds need to know?" And we
say it this way to make a clear distinction. And we have always
preferred to direct information to that which is practical, applicable
and in the "here and now". Though we have at times spoken about
possibilities and probabilities, it is our observation that answers to
inquiries that are focused in the "here and now", in a practical and
applicable manner may indeed bear far more harvest than those
inquiries that can go on interminable tangents that may never have any
substance and proof in a practical way in your living world. And there are many kinds of inquiries along those lines. And there are
indeed many individuals who would focus a great deal more on asking
and talking and philosophizing about such things as, "Can we fly?"
Indeed, in exactly that way. Or, "Since this is all about conscious
creation, why can I not simply consciously will it that I can walk
across the oceans instead of having to pay exorbitant fees to fly?"
And amazingly enough, there are often great lengthy debates that in
other times would have been qualified under the heading of, "Are there
one thousand angels dancing on the head of a pin, or are there one
thousand and one angels dancing on the head of a pin?" With great
energy being expanded as to getting the correct answer on such a
subject matter, as if civilizations themselves hinge upon the correct
answer, that the course of history itself may change if one group or
the other is correct, depending upon the answer. Does that make any
sense to you? JOHN: No, none whatsoever. KRIS: Indeed. MARK: That's sort of the difference between information and knowledge. KRIS: In many respects. And not that, inquiries about such
possibilities are discounted. But we do want to make certain that
inquiries on such topics are put in their own context and do not
overshadow those issues that might actually prove truly life changing.
Because at the, how do you say, at the end of the day, whether it is
philosophically possible for you to fly may not change your life one
iota. But what you can do with your present life "now" will change
that life. Do you understand or position? JOHN: Absolutely. And if I may, KRIS: Indeed, you may. JOHN: You are a free being, Kris. And you get to talk to us about
anything you want. KRIS: Of that we are aware. But are you aware that you are free being
as well. JOHN: Increasingly so. KRIS: And that is far greater of concern to us than anything else,
that you understand and appreciate the nature of your being, including
its freedoms of expression. It can easily be said that any of your
highest ideals of Democracy, as far reaching in potential as possible,
are actually the source of the various systems of Democracy in your
world. They are modeled upon that psychological ideal, that you are a
freethinking individual. And as a result, you would see others,
including other life forms, in the same light. Does that make sense to
you? JOHN: Absolutely. KRIS: What say you in Skype-land concerning being a freethinking
individual? ALAN: Well in light of your earlier comments, I would point out that
this is called "Reality By Design" and not "Unreality By Design". KRIS: Indeed. ALAN: I think the, I think people do have questions about when you get
into the whole idea of, "Well just exactly what inquires, inquiries
have to do with the real world?" I think they still want to know
whether or not this real world, should be fun or should be, you know,
going for material things, or taking care of responsibilities. And you
know, just where does the line draw maybe between just having fun and
going off into unreality. KRIS: Indeed a very well taken position and in line with the intent we
are presenting for this new ship of consciousness. And no, we do not
call it Good Ship Lollipop. It is important to understand the various
distinctions, and therefore boundaries, in which you express your
being. And it can be all right to discuss whether it is possible for
you to fly or for you to walk through walls, or walk through water, or
simply step out onto the street in the middle of a freeway and simply
because you have the belief that you could be invincible, would you be
invincible. Do you follow so far? KRIS: Indeed, everyone has the freedom to discuss these issues. But at
the end of the day, it may be far more practical and expedient for the
individual to recognize that these particular issues have their own
realms of discussions and at some point, need not preempt that which
you need to explore in yourself, up to and including recognizing and
appreciating those aspects of self that merit attention for your own
growth and awareness. Because at the end of the day, whether there are
a thousand or a thousand and one angels dancing on the head of a pin,
may not be as significant as whether you have been able to gather your
bread, water and foodstuffs to feed your family. In some respects you do make that distinction and must indeed honor
yourself in that light. Thus you can, and have full freedom to discuss
all the possibilities and potentials that you wish. But there are
other potentials and possibilities that are much closer to home and
can benefit you much more closely than wondering whether or not it is
possible to counter the forces of gravity simply because you think it
would be "way cool". It might be more practical for an individual to
explore countering and transforming the influences of beliefs upon his
or her situation. Does that make sense? JOHN: It certainly does. There's different kinds of gravity. There's
some gravity that it doesn't make sense to change and other kinds of
"gravity" that is entirely within our power to change into levity. KRIS: Indeed. Any other inquiries at your end of Skype-land? ALAN: Well I'm still trying to get my mind around the idea of what is,
what an individual might consider to be within the realm of their
practical possibilities. Because I still think there's some kind of a
distinction there between . . . I mean, obviously someone would not
expect to be able to go out and walk on water in the normal world. But
I do think there are, there are things that people, that are so far
from people's everyday experience that they would, might seem like a
real fantasy to entertain thoughts and ideas about these things. But
yet they might actually be, have to do with personal beliefs that they
hold. And . . . KRIS: Indeed. And you . . . ALAN: I guess that's the issue. KRIS: And you have struck upon the correct word, fantasy. Now it can
effectively be said that all of life is a fantasy, but when it affects
you directly it is another matter altogether. And that fine line
indeed becomes a subjective matter. But even within the issues of
subjectivity there is a recognition of what is, and what is not, a
fantasy. When even in certain terms, a fantasy in that way, such as,
"Can human beings walk on water or fly?" is based upon the exploration
of beliefs, but in these ways, fantasizing about being the human being
who will walk on water, or who may reverse the effects of gravity, is
also based upon beliefs. But perhaps not the beliefs in gravity so
much as putting these extreme situations and attempting to
contextualize them in such a way that it will inevitably provide a
certain proof that working with beliefs does not bring about expected
results. Because the individual will claim that they have been working
on changing their beliefs about the influences or effects of gravity
so that they can simply levitate and fly and as your quaint old
expressions claim, "Let's face it. You are not Maharishi." MARK: If I could just jump in . . . KRIS: Indeed. MARK: . . . and make a comment there. Just as an example, I have a
fantasy of owning a mansion, a three-story mansion with beautiful
furniture and art and the whole bit. But I also have a dream to just
be a property owner, to own my own house, which is more realistic. And
I do, in my day-to-day life, look at what needs to change for me to
obtain that dream. KRIS: Indeed. And there is, again, a fine distinction along those
lines. We have mentioned, as well as many others have mentioned, that
if you are to dream, by all means dream big. Now you may dream so big
as to explore the world of fantasies, thinking that is dreaming big.
If you are going to be rich, you might as well be the only one who has
money in the world, being the richest individual in the world. And if
your dream does not come about in a specified amount of time, say . . . MARK: Friday at noon. KRIS: . . . three minutes, then of course all of this reality creation
stuff doesn't work. So we do want to make a clear and recognizable
distinction between what is practical, what is fantasy, how you can
come to terms with it. And even though you may desire to own property,
as you have just described, and even though, on the other hand, you
may have dreams of owning a twenty-room mansion, with a yacht and so
on and so forth . . . MARK: A yacht in the pool. [Laughter.] KRIS: Yes, pools are very interesting. It doesn't mean that your dream
may not come about. But the fantasy itself may be more dubious. Does
that make sense to you? MARK: Yeah. KRIS: And does it make sense in Skype-land? ALAN: Sure. I'm waitin' for the definition, Kris, the difference
between what's practical and what's fantasy. KRIS: Indeed. If you engage in your minds and in your thoughts, those
kinds of dreams that even you recognize as being well beyond the reach
of every human being, then you have transferred your energies into a
world of fantasy. And if you are in the habit of noticing and
recognizing your own energies even slightly, you may recognize that
your inner self is pulling your back, wanting you to recognize that
the "here and now" may be an easier place to apply your energies.
Would that assist you? ALAN: Yeah, Kris. And I think you recently made mention of the fact
that if you have a big dream and you imagine yourself having the thing
you're dreaming about and then you start getting objections from other
parts of you inside, that that's a pretty good indication that you're
in the realm of fantasy and not necessarily in the realm of reality. KRIS: Indeed. When you perceive any opposing or conflicting energies,
even your own better judgment telling you that you are venturing too
far afield, then it may indeed be time to pay attention. It is a
balancing act. And for all intents and purposes, your imagination is a
great factory of dreams. When you consciously apply the impossible as
your objective in that way, then please take your own best advice and
come back down to earth, as it were. Does that make sense to you? ALAN: It certainly does. KRIS: Do you follow? JOHN: Yes I think actually, this has been a very helpful discussion
you've been having with Alan, for me. Because it highlights my, what I
.. . . the use of the word "impossible" is what confirmed this for me.
In other words, you're always saying that to be practical. Dream big,
yes, but be practical about the steps, the practical steps you're
going to take towards that. And if you think in your heart that
something is not possible for you, then it's not gonna' happen because
you belie . . . what you believe is what happens. So, it ends up being
.. . . Like for instance, for Mark to own property is perfectly within
the realm of, of possibilities for him. MARK: Indeed. JOHN: Right? Right now, for him to own a twenty-room mansion is
outside of what he regards as the realm of possibilities for him. Now
that does not mean, though, that over the period of the next few years
when he does acquire some property, and maybe some more property, and
some other things changed, then that mansion might move within. This
is all changeable. MARK: Absolutely. JOHN: But that mansion then might move into the realm of what becomes
possible. MARK: That's right. JOHN: So it's a matter of what you sincerely believe is possible. KRIS: Indeed. Now we are aware that there are many individuals who
would rather always think about "no limitations", that the world and
the imagination have no boundaries and no limits and you can engage
any kind of thoughts and energy in every kind of direction that can
possibly be imagined. And in many respects it is how you use your
imagination. Though sometimes you use it to narrow the field of
possibilities that is available to you, as if you cannot imagine that
you would have some happiness, as a poor example. However, to demand that your imagination lead you into the territory
of the kinds of experiences where you experience the opposite, for
instance, that you never have one iota of anything but happiness, is
also a certain kind of fantasy. It is not that you need unhappiness to
appreciate happiness. But the issues of life are full of contrast. And
if you understand the nature of happiness and unhappiness, you may
come to realize that none of these things are truly what you are, nor
are the experiences themselves what you are. But you are the
foundation that anchors the experiences into your life. You are the
source, but you are not the happiness, nor the by-products. And the
by-products do not make it so your life depends upon them. Do you
follow that? JOHN: Yes. KRIS: As a result, the self that you are generates all the necessary
situations in life so that you experience the growth and awareness as
best suits your situation and personal development. So that gives it a
different vantage point altogether. Again, if you are at the base of a
mountain you perceive certain things only. But as you climb up the
mountain you may perceive more and more, your vision over the horizon
becomes larger and larger. And as you reach the summit, then you can
see all around you, and have again a completely different perception
of the entire valley, as it were. Do not forget that you are the
mountain from which you view your perceptions. Does that make sense to
you? JOHN: Yeah. Well, it's . . . obviously I'm getting a tiny bit boggled,
but . . . Yeah, that, realizing that I'm the mountain always . . .
Now, I . . . KRIS: So depending where you are conscious on the mountain makes a big
difference. Just like you know that "the other" is you. The other may
exist in another time or place. You are not conscious as "the other",
but you are conscious as "you". And in some cases that may make you,
in some ways perhaps, more fortunate than being conscious as "the
other". That is another point of view, another perspective. Now we
believe that you may have need of a break to un-boggle what boggles you. JOHN: Yes. MARK: Indeed. Thank you. JOHN: I just need to reset my fuses. MUSICAL INTERLUDE MARK: Welcome back to Reality by Design: A Kris Production. I like
that better. It seems to flow a little better. JOHN: Excellent. MARK: We definitely have some follow-up here from Kris based on some
discussion at break. JOHN: Yes. KRIS: Now Joseph suggested you bring up a specific topic because it is
in line with our presentation. JOHN: All right. Last week we talked in a way that fascinated me,
about the idea that we choose beliefs, acquired beliefs I'm talking
about here, because of the limitations they create for us. And that
when we fantasize out of the beliefs we've chosen it's, in a way, a
little bit counter-productive. Whereas if we fantasize within the
beliefs we've chosen . . . I know this is a different way of phrasing
it . . . Are we getting' there? KRIS: Our particular point with this is that on the one hand it may
appear that acquired beliefs, or otherwise, appear as limitations. But
are they so much a limitation as an opportunity for a chosen experience? JOHN: Exactly. KRIS: Thus even they, too, open doors to experience. Your example is
to choose to come home from work, lock the door, close the blinds,
take the telephone off the hook and just be alone. JOHN: Right. KRIS: Is that necessarily a limitation, an imposed sentence, as much
as it could be a desired experience simply to deprogram yourself from
the hustle and bustle of the "nine to five"? JOHN: Exactly. KRIS: Thus it, too, enable you to focus upon the chosen specific
experience at that point in time. JOHN: Right. KRIS: However, you also note that within a set amount of time you will
change your situation. You will choose, then, to open the blinds, put
the phone back in and even unlock the door and open it. Thus, again,
you make certain critical choices and they lead to experiences. It is
only problematic as such when you believe you no longer have choices.
In this situation, you suddenly believe that it is no longer possible
for you to open the blinds, nor to plug the phone back in, or even to
unlock and open your own door. That, you would then choose to be
trapped. That excess becomes the limitation. JOHN: Yes. KRIS: And this can be utilized metaphorically or otherwise,
non-metaphorically. Both situations have the potential. In light of
the earlier discussion, you have a similar situation. To believe that
only your most extreme fantasies should then be considered as suitable
subject matters for conscious creation, knowing full well that you are
setting yourself up for a fall. It will not function. Intuitively,
there are many individuals who know, and still persist. That is when
you realize you have crossed that particular border, and then to
believe that it is not possible to have anything otherwise JOHN: Then you cross . . . KRIS: Does that make sense? JOHN: Yes. It absolutely does. KRIS: So you do box yourself into your own subjects. JOHN: Well also, it occurs to me . . . And here I'm speaking about
myself in years past. When I want to get fascinated by, essentially
fantasies about may or may not be possible in some philosophical
sense, my own feeling, as I look back on those episodes, is that what
I was really doing was denying my own "here and now", and my own
feelings, and my own potential to change my real life. KRIS: Indeed. You may consider that a type of sophisticated
smokescreen . . . JOHN: Yeah. KRIS: . . . concentrating immense amounts of energy and thought,
emotions and feelings, into that which is fantasy, thinking of course
that everything else will simply magically be where it is, or supposed
to be where it is. You could, for example, fantasize about all sorts
of fantastic, impossible things. But at the same time, you stay at
home doing the fantasies and your pay cheques should just keep coming
in, and then get rather despondent when it is not the case. Thus, not to put a dampener on anyone's imagination and fantasies and
fantasy-making energies, do recognize that you have a great deal of
potential within your reach. But do recognize that when people claim,
for instance, that you have unlimited potential at your reach, you
need to define that. Otherwise you spin as in a hamster wheel. JOHN: Yes. And also it seems to me, I mean what I've learned over the
years is that there's no need to make up magical and wonderful things
to think about instead of where I am "here and now". Where I am "here
and now", when I give it my full, sincere attention, is as magical and
amazing as anything I can imagine. KRIS: Indeed. Because the "here and now" is also the product of your
imaginings. JOHN: Right. KRIS: But it is in a different class. Does that make sense in Skype-land? ALAN: Yeah, it certainly does, Kris. Two things that came to my mind
when you brought up the topic of limiting beliefs and why we would
choose to adopt limiting beliefs. One, of course, is the fear of the
unknown, kind of like Hamlet saying, you know, "I'd rather bear the
ills I have than fly to others I know not of." And the other side, I
think, is a very practical one. And that is, if you have too much
choice you'll never get anything done. So limiting beliefs actually
allow you to focus on at least doing one thing rather than being lost
in a shopping centre. KRIS: Indeed. And in that respect you take full advantage of the truly
powerful capacities of your conscious mind, because it is, in many
ways, not unlike a capacitor. It allows. Do you follow? It enables a
concentration, focusing, so that you can about, go about the business
of going about your business. It is through that interface that you
can truly show and shine with your potential. But if you keep
concentrating on unlimited potentials you may never be able to come to
terms with the potential you have now in the "here and now". Does that
make sense? ALAN: Well yeah. It's just like when somebody spends all the time
trying to chat and not listening to what you're saying, they're really
not being in this moment and taking advantage of the hour of their
conscious mind. They're kind of going, by default, in another direction. KRIS: How did you know we sometimes peek into your chat room? {Laughter.] ALAN: Well you peek into everything else we've got, Kris. So the chat
room shouldn't be off limits. KRIS: Now we never peek in drawers we are not allowed to peek in. [Laughter.] KRIS: Other than that, yes, and you bring up a very valid point. There
are many discussions where the individuals may believe sincerely that
they can listen to the discussion, the main discussion, and at the
same time engage in twenty different chats thinking that indeed the
true effect is already felt. We cannot even hint at wanting to manage
these types of processes. It is not our place. But it is up to the
individual to do what is best for themselves to, how do you say, to
take full advantage of the investment that they have given into the
group exchange and thereby really come out winners. Does that make
sense to you? MARK: Very nicely put. KRIS: Indeed. ALAN: Yeah. KRIS: Are there any last observations? Do you also understand the
processes for the next show? JOHN: Submit questions on the site or on the forums. MARK: Or write through Skype. JOHN: Or write through Skype. And it'll be a Q. and A. That sounds great. MARK: Spread the word. ALAN: Yeah, right guys, 'cause I can monitor the Skype chats and pick
up any questions off of there. MARK: Yep. That's what it's mainly for. KRIS: Indeed then, we leave you to your best devices. And we recognize
that those devices are all well intentioned. And we thank you for your
consideration. And once again, 'BOO". [Laughter.] JOHN: BOO. MARK: Thank you, Kris. JOHN: Thank you, Kris. END OF PROGRAM
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