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THERE IS NO RELIGION IN SPIRIT
There Are No Rules and No Church Services
Jean: I have some questions for Marie Louise, age ninety-nine, who
crossed over in December, 1984. She was my mentor in many lifetimes. Ariana: Well, I seem to have her energy here without Kataan coming
first. She is just sitting here with us, glowing, smiling, grinning
and is just so happy. I seem to be tuning straight into her, so she
knows the ropes over there, that's for sure. She probably would have
no trouble communicating with you Jean. Kataan: This is Kataan. Yes, absolutely! I gave you her energy in
order to bring this channeling into fruition. Marie Louise is
tremendously excited to be called upon and she gives Jean a huge hug.
She is so, so thrilled to actually be able to have a little visit,
because she feels as if that will solidify her connection and her
mission with you. Jean: Is that her name out there, her full name as in her divine name? Ariana: No her divine name is something else. I will let you know if
it comes through. It does start with "m" and ends with "e", so it's
very, very similar. I think that her mother did very well in choosing
the name. So now, Jean you can talk to Ariana as if it was your
grandmother and she will be able to make a conversation with you. Jean: Well it is amazing and awesome to have this conversation. As she
knows, I still have some wounding from this lifetime. My first
question is, "How is the best way to complete my personal healing or
this emotional hurting that I still carry within?" Ariana: If my dear... wow... she called you Chosen One... that's why
I was a little hesitant... shall I call you... Chosen One? Marie Louise: My dear Chosen One, you are of course, tremendously
sensitive and have leaned that way too much. With knowledge and
understanding relief comes. I think that if we could have this
conversation and you can learn more about what it's like for all of us
here, who are your family in Spirit, then perhaps if you could learn
how to communicate with us yourself, a lot of your hurt would go away.
Also Ariana could teach you the pyramid meditation and also the
releasing breath. That's something that you could physically do while
you were relaxing in the shower or the bathtub, something that could
just go along with your life but can be healed through your intent,
through water and through your energy. Jean: Is some of it attached in my bones, in my knuckles? Is there a
link there with the pain in my hands and this emotional wounding? Marie Louise: Yes, it is definitely connected and when you are able to
release the hurt, then it should be that your hands would be more
comfortable. The pain always goes to the most sensitive place in the
body and for you it is the hands but it is also the heart and so in
order to protect yourself from this, it would be very good for you to
learn these techniques. We won't go into them right now because this
is a visit and it would take up time that might be more valuably spent
together.
Jean: Is she in touch with my father, her son? Ariana: Yes, oh yes. All those that you mentioned are together right
now. Your father is here, your nephew and there was a fourth one,
wasn't there? Jean: My oldest brother also. It was back in 1974. Grandma Shares Her Personal Life With Her Granddaughter Ariana: OK, so all those that you mentioned are all together with
grandma right now and, by the way, grandma does not look a bit like a
grandmother! Jean: Can you describe her to me. her energy? Ariana: Yes, indeed. Grandma does have a body in Spirit and it is the
body of a magnificent young woman similar to the young woman that she
was in the lifetime on Earth and so she is magnificent in her
stature. Her hair is long and beautiful. She flows rather than walks. Jean: Would she like to share some of her life as a young woman and
what she learned as being a human in this lifetime? Marie Louise: Of course in those days, innocence was everything to a
young person. It was a shock to many young women of my time when they
learned the realities of life, from the physical changes to the sexual
part of life, to the making of babies and the having of babies. It
was all very difficult for me because I had no knowledge about what
was to be expected and therefore that colored my young demeanor in
ways of shyness and perhaps although I didn't look as if I was shy, I
was still very trepidicious because I didn't know if another unwelcome
surprise might come into my life. By the time I was in my thirties
and forties I was through with that and, of course, more mature and
wise. I was able to share with my family where my forbearers could not
share with me. So this was really, basically my cross to bear and it
unfolded as life naturally does where you come to an acceptance, which
I did. Difficult Life Experiences Jean: How was it like to have her daughter pregnant out of marriage?
What was that experience like for her? Marie Louise: Of course, besides being a body experience, it was a
very, very difficult head experience, especially in times where that
was not usual. It was hugely difficult for everybody concerned.
(There was tremendous sadness coming through about that...) Jean: About not knowing her grandson? Ariana: I must rid myself of this sadness. I'm picking it up from
her. It's in my head! Jean: She is probably healing as well, if it's possible. Marie Louise: Yes, indeed, you are very wise, my dear and that brings
me to what I would like to share with you at this moment and that is
what you have perceived. I have been assisting you on spiritual
planes. For me, it will be very much more meaningful and I hope for
you as well, now that we know and understand this relationship, that
you would be able to speak with me or write with me and I would be
able to respond, very similar to what is occurring with Ariana and her
major correspondent right now, which is all in Universal Mind. Jean: The quality of what we are sharing here today is very amazing,
so I just wanted to tell you it is amazing. Ariana: She was telling you that she wants to be in contact with you
like Muriel is in contact with me and she says that is only possible
when the person in the Third Dimension is receptive and will commit to
the time and effort because it doesn't take basically any time for her
on the other side but it takes minutes and hours to a person in the
Third Dimension. It is a choice and it is a choice that is not always
made by the third dimensional person, because of the many activities,
fun, joy, tears and laughter of life. the whole gamut of things that
happen with a human being. To commit to a half an hour or something
like that as Ariana has done, is a joy beyond any kind of comparison
and you will get to a point, Jean, where any question you need to ask
can be answered. Jean: I am looking forward to that. Ariana: Yes, it is a major, major step in your life; it would be a
major step. She would be able to explain to you intricate family
information and treasures that could never come through another
channel because you have lived it and she has lived it. Yes, she is
excited that you would contemplate that type of a relationship. Jean: I have been so yearning for this for so long and I'm here in
Hawaii just to be away from everything so that I can fully immerse
myself without distraction from all of the family ways of limited
thinking. Is there anything else she would like to share? Marie Louise: Yes, thank you, my dear one. I am so excited to be in
contact this way simply because it doesn't happen very often that you
can actually get my words in a manner like this and since I have been
over here for quite some time, I have a lot on the go. (Laughs...) As
Muriel has told Ariana, resting in peace is not what we do over here.
(More laughs...) Jean: Good stuff, what do you do then? Tell me... Spiritual Energy Keeps Everything Going on Earth Ariana: Well Jean, after Muriel crossed over she hinted that she could
do ten things at once... (More laughs) then I said, OK, tell me and
she wrote fifteen things that she could do at once, just one after the
other. Yes and so it is amazing, we can just begin to imagine what
it's like because we have to let go of our linear way of thinking. Jean: Would you like to share what she is up to? Ariana: Yes, I think your grandma wants to do that. She wants to
share. Oh, for goodness sakes. no kidding! (Laughs....) The way
they give me hints, it's quite neat. We were talking about Tobias
earlier. The name Tobias is also the name of a, you might call him an
elf in a story by Tuieta. I've read that book. She is letting me know
that she has a lot to do with elves and this is the spiritual energy
that is connected with cars so Marie Louise, could you please tell me
how you handle this and what it is that you do? I understand
something about the spiritual energy of plants and animals and the
human being but do not know much about the energies that are within
inanimate objects. Yes, there is so much more to learn. This is Marie Louise: Everything has spiritual energy, every cell in
every body or vegetation, every atom. It is all connected with
spiritual energy and there is a hierarchy to this energy because there
would be, for example, in a human being there would be spiritual
energy in every cell but then there would be a main energy for the
entire body, which would be called the body elemental. Now, when it
comes to vehicles, there is spiritual energy in the metal and the
makeup of the vehicle and there is one who is the head elf, you might
call him but we do not use that term, the one who looks after all of
this energy to do with the cars. What I do from this perspective, because this has been an interest of
mine, is I can duplicate my energy. This is a total duplication of
energy even though I can do, just like Muriel, ten or fifteen things
at once. There comes a time when that energy needs to be totally,
totally duplicated so that a part of me can go off on a different
mission. It is still looked after by my "brain" or mental body but it
is on a new and different mission. I have a mission to produce the
energy that brings about these elementals that are to do with cars and
that is one of my rather unique and different interests. I thought
that you would be interested in that. Normally I would not have been
able to likely put that in the mind of a channel but the name,
"Tobias" gave me that opportunity so I could do that. Everything on Earth is looked after by we in the Spirit World and it
is spiritual energy that keeps everything going. You might wonder why
I chose cars. I had a fascination with them when I was on Earth
because I came from the horse and buggy times and then graduated to
seeing the first cars and that's when the fascination began that
remained for my entire lifetime. So there's more that makes cars run
than the gasoline that is put in the tank. Jean: Does that mean we can run a car without gasoline? Marie Louise: Yes. It is just a matter of figuring out how to work
with the energies on Earth now that they are changing and now that
they are strengthening. Yes and these things I am very much going to
be working with, also with inventors. Ariana: She's sitting there laughing Jean, because she knows this
sounds kind of crazy because she was a grandmother to you and now
she's interested in something so totally non-feminine. She's having a
really fun time telling you this! Jean: We had other adventures in other lifetimes. I know that,
(laughs...) and she was doing some pretty awesome stuff like bi-
locating and doing her own astral traveling and I was watching her
doing it. Yes, we do have a strong background together. Ariana: She is excited to tell you that she is working with
inventors. This is part of what she is doing over there. Because she
has a long history with the vehicles' spiritual energy and working
with it in Spirit all these years, she is putting out to the Universe,
in Universal Mind, her ideas of how the cars are going to be able to
be changed so there won't be so much pollution on the planet. In the
future, you'll be able to work from natural energy rather than the
energy that pushes. She is very much involved in the changeover
relative to the vehicles on planet Earth. Yeah, what a woman! Isn't
that a fun thing! Jean: I don't remember her driving a car though. Ariana: No, it's nothing to do with that. It's to do with her
fascination that a car came into existence from the horse and buggy
times and that it worked without horses away back then when she was
young. Jean: I remember the first car we had; it was a Ford. That's what I
am driving today. Mission in Spirit: Mothering Babies Ariana: So grandma, would you please tell me if there is anything else
you would like us to know about what you do in Spirit? She gave me
the idea of babies. Marie Louise: Yes Jean and Ariana, when babies come back into Spirit
without having had a lifetime, right from the beginning of life in the
womb to babies that might be two or three years of age maximum, I work
with those babies to welcome them back to Spirit. I mother them in
spiritual ways until their emotions can be stabilized so that they
will be able to understand what occurred. It is very hard on the
physical plane to speak to a little baby and understand their emotions
but from my perspective, I can think to the little baby and receive
the emotions. So it might take, just in a matter of your thinking, a
day or it might take much longer to bring this baby to the point where
it will return basically to its spiritual essence that it had before. Jean: So, is she talking about when the babies cross over on the
other side or they are coming in to the body of the mother? Ariana: It is when they cross over to her side. too soon possibly. Jean: In other words, when they die young, to help them coping. Ariana: ...to get them back to the Spirit World in a way that they
want to be after that experience. Apparently there are a lot of
emotions in those little kids, a lot, a lot of emotions. I didn't know
this. Jean: So they can't express it because they were stuck here. Now is
that what you would call the Crystal children that never had a body on
Earth before? Ariana: No, it is any baby. It can be a Crystal child, it can be an
Indigo child or it can be a child on any ray. The baby comes over to
Spirit from a family on Earth. Jean: Is that anything to do with what I learned about in Dreamwalk
Birth Transition... Marie Louise: It is a cycle. They come to people like me in order to
be squared away so that they can return to Spirit in a productive way
and at that time they can make a new decision as to whether they wish
to go back to Earth soon or if they want to remain in Spirit.
Sometimes, in fact many times, that baby will wish to be a guide for
the mother, the father or a family member, or all of them. Sometimes
it is that human touch that they needed in order to get that impetus
for the guidance that was necessary for the family and so to get the
baby from the emotional state it's in when it comes back to Spirit and
to turn them around and have them do a mission, that's what I'm
involved in, that whole process. Jean: So, why the babies and not humans of all age? Why do a work with
just babies? Marie Louise: Just babies? It's my choice, being a granny. It's an
experience. Jean: Because, she was there to greet my nephew when he crossed over
as well. He was thirty-three. Marie Louise: Yes, oh, of course. I would be immediately drawn to any
family member, absolutely so. There is No Religion in Spirit Jean: Would you like to share about this condition, this situation
with the catholic religion at this point and how it impacts the world
in general? Ariana: She is going into her sad mode again... Marie Louise: Jean, coming to Spirit was a huge revelation for me
because there is no religion. Jean: My father knows that now, does he?
Ariana: Oh yes. There is no religion; there is no rule, dogma or
ceremony. Yes, you are simply free in Spirit to envelop yourself in
the energy of love through a teacher, through the pure God energy.
There are no rules; there are no church services. (Ariana is sighing
with relief here.) Jean: It is such a huge lift. My head knew that but my body needed to
know. Coming from her. It was hard; it was hell on Earth. Ariana: Even I was affected and I do not come from a Roman Catholic
background. Jean: Can we ask why on Earth. Marie Louise: It was all a grand plan and a huge experiment that went
wrong. People took control where control was not appropriate. This
control is seen ever since Lemurian times my dear, through the ages.
It has come to be a noose around people's neck for nothing. It did not
assist the growth of the planet and it did not assist the Spirit
World. I have a heavy heart about that as I speak, especially with
woman but also with men and children. I am very happy to tell you that in the new world, there will be no
such restriction; there will be only the pure type of religion such as
they had in Lemuria in times past.
Kataan Assisted Marie Louise
Spoken through Ariana Sheran in Kauai
Transcribed by Jean in Kauai
January 22, 2009
Two days after President Obama's Inauguration
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Quotation from "The Lost Continent of Mu" by James Churchward
"The 64,000,000 people were made up of "ten tribes" or "peoples,"
each distinct from the other, but all under one government. All
followed the same religion, a worship of the Deity through symbols.
All believed in the immortality of the soul, which would eventually
return to the great source whence it came. At this time, the people
of Mu were highly civilized and enlightened. There was no savagery on
the face of the earth, nor had there ever been, since all the peoples
on earth were children of Mu (Lemuria) and under the sovereignty of
the motherland."
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