A Conversation With Wendelle C. Stevens by Jilaen Sherwood
Colonel Wendelle Stevens has been investigating the UFO phenomenon for over 40 years, in which time he has amassed what is reportedly the largest photographic library of UFO's in the world. Jilaen Sherwood Interviewed Colonel Stevens at his home in Arizona, USA.
JS: Wendelle, how did you originally become involved in the UFO subject and how did your military background tie in with the UFOs?
WS: Well, when I graduated from flying school there were some openings for young pilots in an Army Air Force test-pilot school. I qualified and flew all the aeroplanes in the government inventory; at the time that was a six-month course. We graduated with test-pilot speciality numbers, and that got me reassigned to a mobile air depot initially and then to Wright Field [now Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, Ohio].
At Wright Field pilots don't fly all the time, so they have to have a duty desk someplace, and my duty desk was in the foreign division of the Air TechnicalIntelligence Centre. I was there when the Roswell UFO crashed and two or three classified documents coming back from abroad and I was not in the 'need-to- know' loop on the UFO problem. There were people in the same office who were in on all that, but I didn't know it and I didn't have access to the information
because intelligence is compartmented, so you're not supposed to trade ideas with other people. What you are working on is what you're responsible for and you don't talk to each other about it. At that time we had a standard rotational plan where you spent two years in
the United States, then two years out of the United States. I came up for normal rotational assignment and was due for transfer overseas and they sent me to Anchorage, Alaska. I was assigned as an Operations Officer. There was no flight- testing so I was not flying, hut among other duties I was supervising a team of civilians who were installing special equipment aboard a B29, flying missions over the Arctic. It was a good opportunity to use that platform to collect data with respect to UFOs.
They put search detectors on all the electrical systems and magnetic detectors, and radio frequency scanners aboard. The radio frequency detectors looked for surges or interference on the
radio frequencies and did this about three or four times a month.
Well, I couldn't develop any film out there, couldn't look at any tape or anything; it all had to be downloaded, packed in a metal box, chained to an officer's wrist and flown to Washington every
time there was an event, so I never got to see any of it. But my superiors told me that anything I collected by myself I could do whatever I wanted to with.
JS: I'd like to know what your own perception is on some of the issues regarding UFOs. Maybe we could talk a little about the disclosure of information. The US government is supposedly allowing some sort of disclosure this year. Do you know anything about that?
WS: Well, I hear the rumours. Personally, I don't think there's going to be any disclosure because it represents a loss of power to disclose any of it, and I think that the old argument that it's a national security problem still holds. It's a national security problem in the sense that if we have contact with extraterrestrials, or if we have crash residue and are studying it, then it gives us the potential for learning something new and the potential for ultimately developing a technological advantage of some kind. And in the history of conflict, wars have been won and lost over a minor technological innovation.
JS: Have you any opinions about the rumours concerning the grey aliens working alongside the governments?
WS: I wouldn't have considered that possibly five years ago. But then I met a gentleman who came to me at a conference one time and introduced himself, and said that he was a flight simulator engineer and he had just retired. He said that for the last 27 years he had been working at Area 51 on the simulators, trying to teach our people to fly some of the disc shaped craft we had built, and also try to come up with some kind of simulator to teach us to fly an alien disc that was operational that we couldn't fly.
He told me he worked at times" shoulder to shoulder" with an alien being, and he said that the alien was helping him to try and find a way to bridge the gap between their technology and ours. In thirty years we've been unable to do it. He said that the control system in the alien craft depends a lot on mental input and we don't understand or know enough about it. We've never been able to fly it.
He told me an interesting thing that, in 1968, he attended a progress review at Los Alamos Airbase chaired by Edward Kelly, and there was a big oval table of scientists and engineers and sitting across from him was an alien being in an earth shirt and slacks to make him look less alien. But he still had a disproportionately large head and eyes, pale grey skin, almost no nose, no ears and long fingers, and engineers are usually pretty good sketch artists. He sketched a picture of this guy and he later put it on a t-shirt.
Having known this man for some years now and even knowing who his boss is, I am convinced that we have operational discs that we are training young pilots to fly, and that some may even be deployed by now. I understand that the pilots selected for this program and specially selected to have no close relatives or nobody to have to report to. They live in isolation and they don't go out and mix with the public.
JS: Do you know the whereabouts of any alien bases ?
WS: I understand there are five or six being used a the present time.
JS: There have been plenty of crash sites in the US; I know that you have researched and wriiten books on the subject.
WS: Seventeen books
JS: Would you like to recount some of the details ?
WS: Well, lets see if I can remember here. The first one that I know came down on I June 1947, west of Socorro, New Mexico. That's the one with the six thin aliens in it.. One of them was autopsied in the Santilli film. The next one came down on 15 June in the White Sands Missile Test Range Area. The third one came down the night of 3rd or 4th of July near Corona and that was the Roswell crash.
There was another crash in August. It came down about forty miles north of Socorro on an Indian reservation and that's the crash that's reported by Robert Morningsky where his grandfather and some other Indian boys came upon the crash and rescued one live alien and found three more dead.
They also had six fingers.
The Indian tribe managed to communicate enough with the alien to satisfy his needs and he lived with the tribe for several weeks, until his fellows came and rescuded him. They didn't tell the government recovery people that there was any of them at the scene and that they had one living with the tribe. The government didn't get that information until after he was gone.
JS: What about the crash at Aztec, New Mexico ?
WS: The crash at Aztec, came the following year in 1948, 15 March or May. That was a large craft; it was over 150 feet in diameter.